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+====PS2====
+===General information===
+  *Plays in 30FPS. (25 if PAL)
+  *Going into first person does not stop The Pain's bullet bees from attacking you.
+  *Pain Skip is possible.
+  *Box glide is not possible.
 ====Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater====
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+===General information===
+  *Subsistence 3D Camera is not available.
+  *Box glide is not possible.
+  *Stun grenades will stun Ocelot without actually decreasing his lifebar.
+  *Very Easy starts with 75% (3 blocks) HP.
+  *Very Easy guards take longer to fall asleep after you shoot them with a non-lethal weapon.
+  *Credits are shorter than Subsistence.
+  *Snake Vs. Monkey is playable.
 ===PAL Version===
-  *Plays in 50hz (usually 30FPS)
+  *Country flags facepaints are included.
-  *Subsistence 3D Camera is not available
+  *Very Easy guards have better hearing/sight than other releases.
-  *Snake Vs. Monkey is playable
+  *Snake Vs. Monkey is playable with 2 extra levels.
-  *Going into first person does not stop The Pain's bullet bees from attacking you.
+  *Possible to skip the Lab & Eva.
-  *Possible to skip the Lab & Eva
+  *Only Snake Eater Version with European Extreme.
-  *Only Snake Eater Version with European Extreme
+  *Only Snake Eater Version with Duel mode.
-  *Eva Escort has no unskippable cutscenes
+  *Ledge clip is possible.
-  *Pain Skip is possible
+  *Eva escort cutscenes where Snake boosts her up are skippable.
+  *Snake's O2 gauge drains slower when swimming.
+  *When 50% of the stamina gauge is depleted, Snake's stomach growls a lot more frequently compared to NTSC.
+  *When fighting The Pain or The Boss, MK22/Mosin Nagant shots won't count/be detected if you quick-reload too fast. (Unsure about other boss fights)
+  *In-game menus are less responsive.
+  *M1911A1/SVD spamming is slower than any other versions.
-===US Version===
+===US/JPN/KOR Version===
-  *Very Easy starts with 75% (3 blocks) HP.
   *Very Easy guards have better hearing/sight than other releases.
   *Very Easy boss HP is higher than other releases.
-  *Ledge Clip is not possible
+  *Very Easy stun grenades to do less damage to The End. You cannot one cycle The End.
-  *Eva escort cutscene where Snake boosts her up is unskippable
+  *The End's spawn is randomized, he can spawn either at the rightside hill or the hill in front of Snake.
+  *Ledge Clip is not possible.
+  *Eva escort cutscenes where Snake boosts her up are unskippable.
 ====Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence====
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-  *Plays in 30 FPS, Subsistence Camera tends to introduce lag.
+===General information===
-  *Subsistence 3D Camera is available by clicking in the right stick.
+  *Subsistence Camera is available by clicking in the right stick, but using it in certain areas will cause lag.
-  *Snake Vs. Monkey is playable, includes 2 new levels.
+  *Snake Vs. Monkey is playable with 2 extra levels.
-  *Includes Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 on Disc 2.
+  *Includes Online Mode, Boss Duel Mode, Scecret Theater, Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 on Disc 2.
-  *Credits are longer
+  *Credits are longer by 1 minute compared to Snake Eater.
 ===US Version===
-  *Only the [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/c/cc/1142675637-00.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120115191357|Limited Edition]] release includes Disc 3.
+  *Only the [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/c/cc/1142675637-00.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120115191357|Limited Edition red cover]] release includes Disc 3.
-  *Very Easy is in line with HD version
+  *Very Easy is in line with HD version.
   *Very Easy stun grenades to do less damage to The End. You cannot one cycle The End.
   *Depleting The Fear's stamina is easier due to the lower framerate.
-  *The Fear's dart poison removes your stamina more quickly than on HD.
+  *The Fear's dart poison decreases your stamina compared to HD.
+  *Eva's Stamina decreases quicker compared to HD.
+===JPN/KOR Version===
+  *Very Easy is in line with HD version.
+  *Depleting The Fear's stamina is easier due to the lower framerate.
+  *The Fear's dart poison decreases your stamina more quickly compared to HD.
+  *Eva's Stamina decreases quicker compared to HD.
+===PAL Version===
+  *This version includes disc 3 by default.
+  *Very Easy is in line with HD version.
+  *Depleting The Fear's stamina is easier due to the lower framerate.
+  *The Fear's dart poison drains your stamina more quickly compared to HD.
+  *Only Subsistence version where Lab/Eva Skip is possible.
+  *Eva's Stamina decreases quicker compared to HD.
+===Summary===
+  *Snake Eater PAL is overall the fastest version for speedrunning on the Playstation 2 platform. Pros: Eva skip, shorter credits. Cons: Slightly harder to play, slow 1911/SVD spamming, Very Easy quirks, stun grenades on Ocelot don't deal damage, extra stamina management (Extreme/European Extreme).
+  *Subsistence (any region) is also a great version, especially for Very Easy. Pros: Easy to play, similar to HDC, includes 3D camera, stun grenade damage on Ocelot/The End is fixed, VE/E-EX oddities are fixed. Cons: Full length credits sequence, no Eva skip (if NTSC).
+  *Snake Eater NTSC-U/J/K are versions to avoid. Pros: Shorter credits. Cons: No 3D camera, VE quirks, stun grenades on Ocelot and The End don't deal damage, The End's randomized spawn, no Eva skip, unskippable cutscenes during Eva escort.
 ====Metal Gear Solid 3 HD====
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   *Plays in 60 FPS.
-  *Released on Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, Nvidia SHIELD, and PSNow.
+  *Released on Xbox One and Xbox Series consoles via backwards compatibility, Xbox 360, PS3, Nvidia SHIELD, and PSNow.
   *Subsistence 3D Camera is available by clicking in the right stick.
   *Includes Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2
   *Snake Vs. Monkey is removed, due to Ape Escape being a Sony IP.
-  *
+The Xbox Series S and X consoles load the HD version the fastest and have zero to no lag/slowdowns in framerate. Making this the ideal HD version to speedrun.\\
+* Leaderboards currently separate PS3 as a platform into its own leaderboard, so PS3 and Xbox Series as speedrun platforms stand on their own.
+====Metal Gear Solid 3DS====
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+  * Plays at maximum 20fps.
+  * Difficulties are: Easy, Normal, Hard, Extreme. Easy is the equivalent of other versions Very Easy (With EZ gun) //Extreme is European Extreme?//
+  * Only one save file slot is available. When you are asked to save and press "YES" the game will not confirm. Be careful.
+  * RESULTS on the title menu shows your current save files stats alongside your total stats across all playthroughs on the save files.
+  * You can soft reset to the main menu by pressing and holding: L+R+Start/Select.
+  * Options for "I like Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker" and "Metal Gear Solid 4" are available, learn more about the unlocked camos [[https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/3ds/997803-metal-gear-solid-snake-eater-3d/cheats|here]].
+  * Significantly poor frame rate performance. Comparable or even worse than PS2 in some cases. //Tested on Original 3DS other models need testing//
+  * Subsistence camera is forced throughout the game (uses face buttons or Circle Pad Pro for camera control) //except for The Boss?//
+  * Touch screen has all the extra information while Top Screen is Gameplay with no HUD.
+  * Gyro is forced to be used while balancing on a branch or crossing the bridge in Dolinovodno.
+  * Grid layout for selecting Items and Weapons.
+  * Photo-Camo is available. Take a picture with your 3DS camera and use that as your Camouflage. //Known exploit for 99% Camouflage more info later//
+  * You are able to check your current playthroughs Score Screen at anytime in the Options menu.
+  * Kerotan are replaced with Yoshi and with a different amount (64 Kerotan vs 60 Yoshi) //Locations and differences have yet to be looked into//
+  * Options are more robust than in other versions
+    * Weapon and Item Switch can be changed from Equip/Unequip like in other versions, to 2-Slot Swap(Previous) and 3-Slot Cycle(MGS4/PW)
+    * Normal Camera Controls for Inverse on X-Axis, Y-Axis, or both Axis'
+    * Normal Camera Speed Control. Speeds 1-9 (5 is Default)
+    * FPV Camera Controls (Same Inverse Axis options as listed previously)
+    * FPV Camera Speed Control (Same Speeds as listed previously)
+    * TPS Camera Controls (Same Inverse Axis options as listed previously)
+    * TPS Camera Speed Control (Same Speeds as listed previously)
+    * Aim direction can be changed between Camera Direction and Character Direction. //Character Direction seems better//
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