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--- mgs3_glitches:ladder_zip [2022/04/12 17:43] – [Doing the glitch] added camera bit hau5test
+++ mgs3_glitches:ladder_zip [2023/03/15 10:39] (current) – [Further things to look into] hau5test
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 Food Zip to skip the ladder by Apel
-Done only in RPCS3 so far, more testing needed.
+done on RPCS3
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+Recreation on actual hardware: PS3 Super Slim - JP PSN HD version
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTwe7WVVH8
+===Xbox hardware can't use this setup, further testing needs to be done===
+Apel found this clip on April 18th 2022
+{{youtube>90KFCXey8zM?medium}}
+To do - Series S/X:
+  * have items set up prior just like on PS3
+  * go into the backpack
+  * remove dmic
+  * remove grenade
+  * add 3 food items
+  * start to get out of the menu
+  * hold food item in hand with R2
+  * add stun grenade
+  * add smoke grenade
+  * add magazine
+note: consistency varies
+=== How To Video ===
+{{youtube>AFD3Z6bCszQ?medium}}
 ====Pre-requisites====
+  * have 3 food items
+  * have 1 empty magazine
+  * before entering the room you want to execute the zip in
   * Equip the DMIC, any grenade, any pistol and the knife, in this order
-  * Go to the area you want to do the zip in and save the game
+  * go into the area where you want to execute the food zip
-  * Hard reset
+  * make a save
+  * Hard reset (recommended for EN US and EN EU versions)
+  * (Hard reset on JP ver. 1.02 might not be necessary, proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGEdhauyDPg)
 ====Doing the glitch====
   * Load the game and unequip the DMIC and equip any 3 food items
   * Go to the spot next to the ladder, face the west wall and point the camera downwards
   * Hold R2 and equip the food item (any of the 3)
-  * Start running forward and pause the game
+  * Start running forward in a slight right angle and pause the game
   * Equip the magazine and the DMIC, unpause, don't let go of forward
-  * (This part is not fully consistent afaik) Snake will T-Pose and start going backwards, but you will continue to hear his steps
+  * if snake has enough space to T-Pose: Snake will T-Pose and start going backwards, but you will continue to hear his steps
   * The camera will zip up
   * Roll forward as soon as you can see the railing, or else you'll fall from too high up
   * Done
-====Warning====
+====Reliability====
-  * It's technically multisegment only because doing food zips in a full game run is extremely inconsistent
+  * It's technically multisegment only because doing food zips in a full game run is extremely inconsistent, leading to freezes/crashes
-  * it's random and may crash your game
+  * the PS3 HD JP version 1.02 is less prone to freezing/crashing
+  * the PS3 HD EN version 1.00 is inconsistent despite doing the same setup for the zip effect, leading to more crashes
+  * doing the zip with not enough space surrounding snake leads to crashes, notably if snake touches the wall in t-pose state the game instantly freezes
+==== Routing Notes====
+===for Very Easy===
+  * to grab an empty magazine, best to empty the mag on the roof guard in the ocelot unit fight
+  * to grab the one additional needed food item, you can knife the snake in the cave going to the pain in the "vent" part
+==== Further things to look into====
+  * There are other positions to successfully launch Snake from (see compilation [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVq3b45pBvc|here]])
+  * cancelling the fall damage would be ideal to not miss the timing when to roll
+----
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