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--- mgs2_difficulty_differences [2020/01/24 11:18] – Lucky Rapidflower
+++ mgs2_difficulty_differences [2025/06/03 12:27] (current) – [Enemy range of vision] Lucky Rapidflower
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 =====Difficulty Differences=====
 ====Enemy range of vision====
-Note that enemies have the same range of vision on Hard and regular Extreme.
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 From right to left: Very Easy, Easy, Normal, Hard/Extreme and E-Extreme.
+Note that in some areas the enemy range of vision is the same on all difficulties.
 ====Health values====
 ^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme^E-Extreme^
 ^Health|200|120|100|75|50|30^
-^Ration heal|200|60|50|37|25|-^
-Note that E-Extreme has no rations at all.
-Damage dealt by attacks:
+  * On Very Easy, rations are a full heal
+  * On other difficulties, rations heal half of max health (37 points on Hard)
+  * E-Extreme has no rations at all
+General damage table:
   * Guard Shot: 10
   * Guard Melee: 5
   * Explosion (Further): 20
-  * Explosion (Closer) / Guard Shotgun: 40
+  * Explosion (Closer) / Shotgun: 40
-  * Bleeding: 1/3s
+  * Bleeding: 1 / 3s at 1/3 health (rounded down if necessary)
-  * Smoking: 1/s
+  * Smoking: 1 / s
+  * Choking: 1 / 0.25s
   * Chaff/Stun explodes in player's hand: 10
-On Extreme(s), some attacks do additional damage, like Olga's pistol for example.
+Damage dealt by bosses often varies by difficulty.
 ====Weapon & item capacity====
-^Weapon/Item^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme^Pickup^
+^Weapon/Item^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^Pickup^
 ^M9|106|61|46|46|46|+15^
 ^USP|61|46|46|31|16|+15^
 ^Socom|121|73|61|61|37|+12^
 ^M4/AK-74u|301|241|211|151|91|+30^
-^PSG1(-T)|101|81|61|41|41|+20(/+5)^
+^PSG1(-T)|101|81|61|41|41|+20(+10/+5)^
 ^RGB6|60|42|30|24|18|+6^
 ^Stinger/Nikita|100|50|40|30|20|+10^
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 ^Claymore/C4|16|16|16|16|12|+4*^
 ^Book|10|8|5|5|3|+1^
-^Rations|10|6|5|3|2|+1^
+^Rations|10|6|5|3|2(/0)|+1^
 ^Pentazemin|20|15|10|5|5|+5^
 ^Bandage|10|10|10|5|3|+1^
-*Claymores picked from the ground give +1
+*Planted claymores picked from the ground give +1
-Extreme and European Extreme have the same capacities
+====Guard strength====
-====Enemy strength====
 ^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme^E-Extreme^
+^Health|3000|3000|3000|4000|6000|10000^
+^Stun stamina|3|7|9|14|19|24^
 ^Sleep time|9 min|9 min|5 min|3 min|3 min|40s^
-^KO Time|60s|60s|30s|30s|30s|30s^
-^Tranquilizer, limb|0s|14s|22s|22s|22s|22s^
-^Tranquilizer, body|0s|6s|9s|9s|9s|9s^
-^Punch|4|8|10|15|20|25^
-^Roll|1|3|3|5|7|7^
-^HF Blade (Stun)|1|2|2|3|3|3^
-^Body shot|3|3|3|4|6|10^
-^HF Blade (Lethal)|1|1|2|2|3|3^
-  * Chokes = Punches - 1 (e.g. Normal guards take 9 chokes)
+  * The tengus fought in Arsenal Gear have 3000 health on all difficulties.
-  * Pistol punch = 2 punches (only the second punch has increased damage)
-  * Rifle punch = 3 punches
-  * Roll = 3-4 punches (varies)
-  * Kick = 4 punches (Raiden's double kick still equals 4)
-  * Nikita punch = 10 punches
-  * Limb shot = 0.5 body shot
-  * Explosion = 3 body shots
-A rifle punch to the head immediately knocks an enemy out.
-Additional tranquilizers halve the time to go to sleep.
+Lethal damage table:
+  * Torso shot on any guard / limb shot on attack team guard or tengu: 1000
+  * Limb shot on regular guard: 500
+  * Explosion: 3000 (6000 in VR/alt missions)
+  * Lethal HF Blade: 1500 (note that a single attack can hit several times)
+Enemy armor mechanics:
+  * Regular attack team guards have body armor with 1280 health that protects from lethal bullet-based weapons.
+  * Each shot to this armor deals 256 damage.
+  * On Very Easy, the armor offers no protection.
+Stun stamina damage table:
+  * Punch: 1
+  * Choke: 1
+  * Kick (including Raiden's double kicks combined):  4
+  * 2nd punch w/ weapon equipped: 2
+  * Roll: 3
+  * Throw: 5
+  * Rifle punch: 3
+  * Nikita punch: 10
+  * Non-lethal HF Blade: 6
+  * Close to stun grenade explosion during Guard Rush and Tengu fights: 3 (outside of these fights it is an instant KO)
+Stun mechanics:
+  * For a guard to get knocked out, they either need their stun stamina to be reduced to -1 or have it reduced to 0 while getting knocked down or choked.
+  * On Very Easy and Easy, guards stay knocked out for 60s.
+  * On Normal and harder, guards stay knocked out for 30s.
+  * A punch to the head with a weapon or a punch to the crotch is an instant KO.
+Tranquilizer mechanics:
+  * Guards have 3000 tranq stamina on all difficulties.
+  * A tranq to the torso will deal 1000 tranq damage.
+  * A tranq to a limb will deal 500 tranq damage.
+  * On Very Easy, a single tranq will immediately put a guard to sleep.
+  * On Easy, every tranq to a limb and the torso will deal 3 and 6 tranq damage respectively each frame (=180/s and 360/s).
+  * On higher difficulties, they deal 2 and 4 tranq damage respectively every frame (=120/s and 240/s).
+Guard sleep/KO time reduction table:
+  * Attacking: 30s
+  * Drag and drop: 20s
+  * Coolant spray: 100 frames every other frame = 50s every second
+Note that time in MGS2 is based on frames, meaning 1s = 60 frames.
+====Bosses====
+===Olga===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^(E-)Extreme^Snake Tales^
+^Attack - USP|5|5|8|15|30|45^
+^Headshot|32|32|32|32|32|24^
+^Body shot|24|20|20|20|25|15^
+  * Olga has 128 health on all difficulties
+  * Olga cannot be auto-aimed on Extremes
+  * On Easy and Very Easy, she will bleed 4HP/s after a hit until 64HP.
+  * Meryl replaces Olga in Snake Tales
+----
+===Fortune===
+  * Her railgun deals 40 damage from Very Easy to Extreme
+  * On E-Extreme, it actually deals less: 27 damage
+  * She fires two shots at a time on Extremes
+----
+===Fatman===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Health|256|256|256|384|512^
+^Shots to trip|3|4|4|5|6^
+^Max bombs active|2|2|3|3|4(/5)^
+^Max M9 Headshots|5|4|3|2|2^
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Others^
+^Headshot|60|40^
+^Body shot|14|1^
+^Punch|14|2^
+^Kick|21|3^
+  * Fatman's attacks (pistol/bumping) deal 5 damage from Very Easy to Hard
+  * On Extremes, his attacks deal 6 damage
+  * Also on Extremes, Fatman ambushes the player at his bombs much more actively.
+  * He deals double damage if he bumps into the player while spinning
+  * On Normal and below, first person shooting locks on to his head
+  * Fatman sometimes drops Socom ammo when knocked down on easier difficulties.
+  * Fatman's boss fight in Snake Tales in the same as on Hard, except first person locks on to his head and 3 M9 headshots are possible
+----
+===Harrier===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal / Snake Tales^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Health|2250|3250|3500|4000|4750^
+^Vulcan cannon|3|6|10|14|18^
+^Missile|40|60|60|60|50^
+^Missile Barrage|17|22|26|30|50^
+  * The Stinger deals at base 175 damage to the Harrier regardless of difficulty
+  * On Extremes, the cluster bomb always leaves the player on 1 HP and on fire
+  * Also on Extremes, the vulcan cannon attack includes a missile
+----
+===Vamp===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal / Snake Tales^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Knife throw|5|10|18|22|24^
+^Melee knife|4|12|24|26|30^
+^Head wound shot|48|40|32|24|16^
+^Headshot|21|17|14|10|7^
+^Limb shot|9|8|6|4|3^
+^Explosive|24|20|14|12|8^
+^Explosive in water (Stamina)|16|8|4|2|2^
+^Punch|12|10|4|4|2^
+^Kick|16|14|6|6|4^
+  * Vamp has 128 HP on all difficulties
+----
+===Vamp 2===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Head, tranq.|20|20|10|8|8^
+^Body, tranq.|10|10|7|6|6^
+^Head, lethal|100|50|25|16|12^
+^Body, lethal|20|10|10|8|7^
+  * Vamp 2 has 100 HP on all difficulties
+----
+===Tengus 2===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Tengus to defeat|48|48|64|96|128^
+  * Snake can take 15 hits during the first fight and the second on Normal and below
+  * On Hard and up, Snake can take 13 hits during the second Tengu fight
+  * On Very Easy, the player gets full ammo before the Tengu 1 fight.
+----
+===Metal Gear RAYs===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal / Snake Tales^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Total HP|3072|5120|7168|10240|20480^
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Other^
+^Stinger (open mouth)|1280|320^
+^Stinger (closed mouth)|400|100^
+On all difficulties:
+  * A single RAY has 1024 HP
+  * A RAYs machine gun deals 16 damage (halved by Body Armour)
+  * Water cannon deals 24 damage
+  * A RAYs stomp deals at least 48 damage
+----
+===Solidus===
+^Difficulty^Very Easy^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Health|75|100|100|95|95^
+^Katana|5|7|7|8|7^
+^Strong slash|20|24|24|26|12(/26)^
+^Missile|22|42|42|46|44^
+^Tentacle throw|10|12|12|13|12^
+^HF Blade|4+5+7|3+3+4|3+3+4|2+2+3|1+1+2^
+  * Punches deal 1 damage to Solidus on all difficulties
+  * Kicks deal 2 on Normal and below, 1 on Hard or higher
+  * Solidus's tentacle sweep deals 1 damage on all difficulties
-Waking guards up: shooting > coolant spray > pick up & drop
 ====Bomb locations====
 === Bottom of strut A ===
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 Normal and below (The player goes to the south end of the room)
+----
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 Hard (The player goes to the space with the scuba gear by hanging)
+----
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-Extreme (On the west wall)
+Extremes (On the west wall)
+----
 === Added on Hard & Extreme ===
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 Roof of strut A. The red dot. Sprayed through the fence
+----
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-Strut E. Moving around with the box.
+Strut E. Attached to the northern part (Extreme) or eastern part (Hard) of a moving box.
+----
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 Strut D. Under the hatch at the northern part of the room.
+----
 === Extreme bombs ===
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 Strut D. Eastern part of the room under the platform. NG and NG++
+----
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 Strut D. Northern part of the room under the platform. NG+
+----
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 On Hard and below, the strut F bomb is against the wall.
+----
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 On Extreme, the bomb is attached to a box making it possible to spray it from the ground.
+====Countdown timers====
+^Difficulty^VE/Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme/EE^
+^Deep Sea Dock Bomb|400s|400s|300s|200s^
+^Heliport Bomb|500s|400s|300s|200s^
+^Fatman's Initial Bombs|60s|47s|47s|47s^
+^Emma Bleeding|1200s/600s|300s|240s|180s^
+^Solidus's Torture* (~)|10s|15s|20s|25s/55s^
+*In the HD version, Solidus's torture only lasts ~10-15s on all difficulties.
 ====Hard & Extreme additions====
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   * On Extreme, there are already ciphers on the EF connecting bridge when it's first entered.
   * Strut E contains extra cameras.
-  * Fortune is much more aggressive on Extreme firing off two shots at a time.
-  * On Extreme, Fatman ambushes the player at his bombs much more actively.
   * The president is sleeping and he has to be woken up with explosives.
+  *
 ====Misc.====
   * On Very Easy, the player doesn't have to log on to a node for the radar.
-  * Countdown timers vary by difficulty.
   * The M9 can be obtained at strut A on Very Easy and Easy.
-  * Fatman sometimes drops Socom ammo when knocked down on easier difficulties.
+  * On Very Easy, alert/evasion/caution goes away after entering another room.
-  * On Very Easy, the Shell 1 core caution ends after changing floors with the elevator.
   * Guards don't come to check the situation after the Harrier fight on Very Easy.
-  * The Nikita is slightly easier to obtain on lower difficulties.
+  * The Nikita's locations varies slightly by difficulty.
   * The time Snake appears to help Raiden during the sniping section varies by difficulty.
   * On easier difficulties, the floor boards on the EF connecting bridge respawn for when Shell 1 is re-entered.
-  * On Very Easy, the player gets full ammo before the Tengu 1 fight.
-  * The number of RAYs the player has to defeat varies by difficulty from as low as 3 to 20.
+====Ranks====
-  * Ranks and how to get them also vary by difficulty and very easy has no ultimate rank.
+The following table shows the maximum stats you could have for the top ranks from the difficulties Easy to European Extreme on Tanker-Plant only (Very Easy does NOT have a Rank 1). These were taken by bmn from the PC Port of Substance:
-  * The top ranks in the game by difficulty are Hound (Easy), Doberman (Normal), Fox (Hard) and Big Boss (Extreme)
+^Difficulty^Easy^Normal^Hard^Extreme^E-Extreme^
+^Rank Name|Hound|Doberman|Fox|Big Boss|Big Boss^
+^Time |3:00:00|3:00:00|3:00:00|3:00:00|3:00:00^
+^Saves|8|8|8|8|8^
+^Continue |0|0|0|0|0^
+^Alerts|3|3|3|3|3^
+^Kills|0|0|0|0|0^
+^Rations|0|0|0|0|0^
+^Special Items|Unused|Unused|Unused|Unused|Unused^
+^Max damage taken (DMGA MMOUNT)|1270 (~10.6 bars)|1050 (10.5 bars)|775 (~10.33 bars)|500 (10 bars)|280 (~9.33 bars)^
+^Shots Fired|700|700|700|700|700^
+^Radar|Off|Off|Off|Off|Off^
+[[metal_gear_solid_2:|Return to Metal Gear Solid 2]]